tariqk
12-15 09:47 AM
Congratulations for having the guts to stick it through. Not that it really matters, but I'm curious as to your occupation. I don't think I have much of an appreciation for how certain fields are magnets for unscrupulous employers like the one you described.
Now it is time to celebrate with family and friends, and get back in physical and mental shape. Make sure to get your citizenship then push hard for changes to the system. That's the light at the end of the tunnel for me, also.
TK
Now it is time to celebrate with family and friends, and get back in physical and mental shape. Make sure to get your citizenship then push hard for changes to the system. That's the light at the end of the tunnel for me, also.
TK
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go2roomshare
02-01 12:34 PM
I agree with the initial post, it is mostly true , i know people who did such a way, ofcourse most of indians who worked for a indian consulting company know about it.
trueguy
03-11 02:35 PM
My analysis for EB2. If some one is not agree with this, please ignore it but don't put any rude comment.
DOL approved labor as follow
For India (all category assume 50% are EB2)
2005 : 1350 (EB2-I : 675
2006 : 22298 (EB2-I : 11149)
2007 : 24573 (EB2-I : 12286)
2007 before July 2007 (approximately 65%)
July 2007 : 15972 (EB2-I : 7986)
2007 labor approval is for FY (up to Sept 07). If person have approved labor before July 2007, 99% he/she might have filed I 485.
Consider derivative (Dependent) factor : 2.5
Following numbers of I 485 pending applications for EB2-I:
2006 : 27872
2007 : 19965
Total : 47837
As per Sen Kyl's information pending I 485 for EB2 India : 51717
PD Before 31 Dec 2005 : 3880
PD Before 31 Dec 2006 : 31752
PD before July 2007 : 51717
If this data is true, It would be easily hit early 2006 cut off date for EB2-I in August/Sept 2009 VB
Good luck to every one !
(Note: I got my Green card in 2007)
Very nice and good job. Do you or anybody have similar numbers for EB3-I?
DOL approved labor as follow
For India (all category assume 50% are EB2)
2005 : 1350 (EB2-I : 675
2006 : 22298 (EB2-I : 11149)
2007 : 24573 (EB2-I : 12286)
2007 before July 2007 (approximately 65%)
July 2007 : 15972 (EB2-I : 7986)
2007 labor approval is for FY (up to Sept 07). If person have approved labor before July 2007, 99% he/she might have filed I 485.
Consider derivative (Dependent) factor : 2.5
Following numbers of I 485 pending applications for EB2-I:
2006 : 27872
2007 : 19965
Total : 47837
As per Sen Kyl's information pending I 485 for EB2 India : 51717
PD Before 31 Dec 2005 : 3880
PD Before 31 Dec 2006 : 31752
PD before July 2007 : 51717
If this data is true, It would be easily hit early 2006 cut off date for EB2-I in August/Sept 2009 VB
Good luck to every one !
(Note: I got my Green card in 2007)
Very nice and good job. Do you or anybody have similar numbers for EB3-I?
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laborinbacklog
05-24 09:45 PM
Do you guys really think this bill will become a law that too in its current state and the added amendments? I seriously doubt it. If it is then dont you think the corporate business lobby that has fought really hard to increase the h1 b's to 115000 would have just sat mum while the H1 B fees were increased? I think this bill is just getting too absurd to become into law. I dont know but it would be interesting to hear what the businesses have to say with the increase in h1b fees.
May be I am totally wrong but just thought of posting this because I have been reading so many depressing posts from everyone. Have hope and faith. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. At this point we need to strategise, which I am sure IV is doing it excellently. We may need to make a few compromises but try to make friends with others who are lobbying.
Please dont bombard me. Its just my thought. Please ignore this post if it offends you.
Guys,
Can we lobby to add an ammendum to pay huge penalities($50K) when all the current GC holders apply for Citizenships.
-Mad
May be I am totally wrong but just thought of posting this because I have been reading so many depressing posts from everyone. Have hope and faith. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. At this point we need to strategise, which I am sure IV is doing it excellently. We may need to make a few compromises but try to make friends with others who are lobbying.
Please dont bombard me. Its just my thought. Please ignore this post if it offends you.
Guys,
Can we lobby to add an ammendum to pay huge penalities($50K) when all the current GC holders apply for Citizenships.
-Mad
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07-17 12:18 PM
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12-09 10:29 AM
lud--last updated date
One more followup question. How do we usually know LUD ?
One more followup question. How do we usually know LUD ?
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answers_seeker
07-18 01:13 PM
I am not sure if that is going to be an advantage since my PD was not current in JUNE
For all practical purposes, the date on which it was recieved is your RD=> Receipt Date. The postmark date has no relevance except for records unless USCIS explicitly states so ( which it did once in 2001 http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=89a5f3cee754ad0499e55e731191f 360).
485 filings are strictly Receipt date. I am still searching for the uscis link and will post one as soon as I find one.
For all practical purposes, the date on which it was recieved is your RD=> Receipt Date. The postmark date has no relevance except for records unless USCIS explicitly states so ( which it did once in 2001 http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=89a5f3cee754ad0499e55e731191f 360).
485 filings are strictly Receipt date. I am still searching for the uscis link and will post one as soon as I find one.
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abhisec
03-13 03:28 PM
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4177.html
If some body already posted this other Mumbai consuate...please ignore this...
All Numbers are same as Mumbai Consulate.
Thanks
Thank you very much for posting this. This was not refreshed on the main visa bulletin page - how did you manage to find it out? :D
If some body already posted this other Mumbai consuate...please ignore this...
All Numbers are same as Mumbai Consulate.
Thanks
Thank you very much for posting this. This was not refreshed on the main visa bulletin page - how did you manage to find it out? :D
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va_labor2002
07-28 01:36 PM
What other investment options are available for a GC waiting H1B person.
Can we start a company ? Is it legal ? Can we start a Online web based company ?
Any advices from Gurus !!
I agree house prices are falling across US, if one wants to make a quick buck, house may not be the best option. If the prices and interest rate swing, u will loose big time. It is a nice coffee talk however.
Take for example my friend pays 40 K mortgage per year, and the house price depreciated by 60 K here. he bought it in 2004. Now if he sells he makes 60 K less, + deposit, 80 K two years rent... so in effect, he cud have lived happily for 1200 rent per month, paying abt 30 K for two years and saved the moeny and headache and now he is not finding buyers - as there are lots of houses on sale. This is one of the best areas near San Jose.
So moral of the story is use commonsense. It is easy to give simple advices, if you do not weigh all factors age, job, how long u can repay etc, it will give u insight into affordability and the risks. We folks always look at an X or Y who made money, there are X-n people who also lost, which we tend to overlook for our convenience.
Can we start a company ? Is it legal ? Can we start a Online web based company ?
Any advices from Gurus !!
I agree house prices are falling across US, if one wants to make a quick buck, house may not be the best option. If the prices and interest rate swing, u will loose big time. It is a nice coffee talk however.
Take for example my friend pays 40 K mortgage per year, and the house price depreciated by 60 K here. he bought it in 2004. Now if he sells he makes 60 K less, + deposit, 80 K two years rent... so in effect, he cud have lived happily for 1200 rent per month, paying abt 30 K for two years and saved the moeny and headache and now he is not finding buyers - as there are lots of houses on sale. This is one of the best areas near San Jose.
So moral of the story is use commonsense. It is easy to give simple advices, if you do not weigh all factors age, job, how long u can repay etc, it will give u insight into affordability and the risks. We folks always look at an X or Y who made money, there are X-n people who also lost, which we tend to overlook for our convenience.
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pappu
07-01 08:26 PM
We do see such threads on the forum occasionally where the employee is being cheated/asked to sign a contract/is not being paid on bench/employer is threatening etc etc... There are several instances where members have posted negative comments about consulting companies and how employees are unhappy working for them.
Is this really true?
I want to understand the reasons why people are not filing lawsuits against such companies yet? Why are we not reporting them to DOL and USCIS? Especially after filing I485 and expiry of 6 months, people are in a better position to file lawsuits against such employers.
IV can help only if people are willing to be helped and ready to take action.
If this system needs to be cleansed, then why aren't we doing it?
Let me tell you one thing, "You've got guts, buddy", Congrats on the bold move. not many people dare to do that.
Can he do so? - Theoratically yes, practically: highly unlikely.
if he is a typical consulting guy with less than 50 emps, he won't do it, because such employers almost always make "adjustments" that puts them in extremely weak spot during such law suits. here are some examples:
- a guy was laid off, his new employer sent him on a project even before filing for his H1 transfer
-many consulting companies do not pay salary while the guy is on "bench"
- they many times knowingly/unknowingly commit tax/accounting fraud or regulatory mistakes that can cause serius consequences
- a friend of mine was interrviewed by a client and when the result was positive, his new would be employer called him at a McDonalds and asked him to sign the contract right there (within 30 minute of meeting), and my friend did. Now most people won't see anything wrong in here. but a lawyer told me that my friend was not given enough time to read/understand a legal document and to talk to a lawyer ideally enough time is about 2 weeks. How many small consulting companies give 2 weeks when the interview at client is clear?
In your case, the end client is not your employer's client. Ask him to show the contract between him and the end client.
bottom line of the story is: there are many defenses that one can play and win the case and/or even put the employer in trouble. That's why most small employers don't do much beyond sending a lawyer's notice (just to scare you enough to write down a check). A real nasty guy can even go one step further and file a law suit only to withdraw it later if you decide to fiight it.
Good luck buddy!
Is this really true?
I want to understand the reasons why people are not filing lawsuits against such companies yet? Why are we not reporting them to DOL and USCIS? Especially after filing I485 and expiry of 6 months, people are in a better position to file lawsuits against such employers.
IV can help only if people are willing to be helped and ready to take action.
If this system needs to be cleansed, then why aren't we doing it?
Let me tell you one thing, "You've got guts, buddy", Congrats on the bold move. not many people dare to do that.
Can he do so? - Theoratically yes, practically: highly unlikely.
if he is a typical consulting guy with less than 50 emps, he won't do it, because such employers almost always make "adjustments" that puts them in extremely weak spot during such law suits. here are some examples:
- a guy was laid off, his new employer sent him on a project even before filing for his H1 transfer
-many consulting companies do not pay salary while the guy is on "bench"
- they many times knowingly/unknowingly commit tax/accounting fraud or regulatory mistakes that can cause serius consequences
- a friend of mine was interrviewed by a client and when the result was positive, his new would be employer called him at a McDonalds and asked him to sign the contract right there (within 30 minute of meeting), and my friend did. Now most people won't see anything wrong in here. but a lawyer told me that my friend was not given enough time to read/understand a legal document and to talk to a lawyer ideally enough time is about 2 weeks. How many small consulting companies give 2 weeks when the interview at client is clear?
In your case, the end client is not your employer's client. Ask him to show the contract between him and the end client.
bottom line of the story is: there are many defenses that one can play and win the case and/or even put the employer in trouble. That's why most small employers don't do much beyond sending a lawyer's notice (just to scare you enough to write down a check). A real nasty guy can even go one step further and file a law suit only to withdraw it later if you decide to fiight it.
Good luck buddy!
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gjoe
11-02 09:38 AM
1) We can go back; need not pretend if we think we have the brains
2) If you go "your GC misery is over". After that "A new beginning for you and this society"
3) If you don't go back you don't lose credibility. You just prove that you want to live here no matter what. Eveyone has the right to make his choice based on what works out well for him/her
4) For those who voted "yes" I think they know what they want in life and why they are here. No matter what the conditions are here or anywhere they will make the right choices instead of expecting someone else to control their lives.
The counter point is "Lobbying is not the only path to our freedom and independence"
Like you mentioned pointing out people and there posts is not required ( if you think that is a smart threat and expect people to backoff) because everyone can search every post of the other person if they want to do so.
FOR ALL THOSE WHO VOTED YES - IF WE HAVE ENOUGH NUMBERS WE CAN CHARTER A A380 OR TWO DREAMLINERS ONE FROM THE EAST COAST AND ONE FROM THE WEST COAST WITH STOPS IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES TO DROP OFF PEOPLE. IT HELPS US, AIRBUS/BOEING AND THE "NO" SAYERS WAITING FOR THEIR GC'S. THIS WOULD BE FOR SURE A BIG EVENT IN THE HISTORY.
I am not against IV and its goals or against any views or opinions of people. It is a free world, but if we want to pay a price for that we can do so in many ways. e.g. Waiting for GC.
but try what?
go back? or pretend to go back?
and what after that?
if you go, it's over. if you don't you have no credibility.
i'm not sure i understand. but maybe i'm not good enough for "reverse brain drain" and to those who voted "yes", please confirm July 4 that you are leaving. i saw some of you tracking receipts in desperation? why, why for god's sake? if you are ready and willing to leave in 6-8 months did you care so much? wish there was a way to hold each one of you to your words.
and anyway, what are you doing for that "freedom and independence"? how many of you are actively helping in iv's lobbying effort? just sitting around and watching or criticizing is hardly winning any "respect". please don't make me point out individuals and start pasting their previous posts here...
2) If you go "your GC misery is over". After that "A new beginning for you and this society"
3) If you don't go back you don't lose credibility. You just prove that you want to live here no matter what. Eveyone has the right to make his choice based on what works out well for him/her
4) For those who voted "yes" I think they know what they want in life and why they are here. No matter what the conditions are here or anywhere they will make the right choices instead of expecting someone else to control their lives.
The counter point is "Lobbying is not the only path to our freedom and independence"
Like you mentioned pointing out people and there posts is not required ( if you think that is a smart threat and expect people to backoff) because everyone can search every post of the other person if they want to do so.
FOR ALL THOSE WHO VOTED YES - IF WE HAVE ENOUGH NUMBERS WE CAN CHARTER A A380 OR TWO DREAMLINERS ONE FROM THE EAST COAST AND ONE FROM THE WEST COAST WITH STOPS IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES TO DROP OFF PEOPLE. IT HELPS US, AIRBUS/BOEING AND THE "NO" SAYERS WAITING FOR THEIR GC'S. THIS WOULD BE FOR SURE A BIG EVENT IN THE HISTORY.
I am not against IV and its goals or against any views or opinions of people. It is a free world, but if we want to pay a price for that we can do so in many ways. e.g. Waiting for GC.
but try what?
go back? or pretend to go back?
and what after that?
if you go, it's over. if you don't you have no credibility.
i'm not sure i understand. but maybe i'm not good enough for "reverse brain drain" and to those who voted "yes", please confirm July 4 that you are leaving. i saw some of you tracking receipts in desperation? why, why for god's sake? if you are ready and willing to leave in 6-8 months did you care so much? wish there was a way to hold each one of you to your words.
and anyway, what are you doing for that "freedom and independence"? how many of you are actively helping in iv's lobbying effort? just sitting around and watching or criticizing is hardly winning any "respect". please don't make me point out individuals and start pasting their previous posts here...
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Lasantha
09-25 03:44 PM
The first one on the list. I assumed MRN stood for Moron. (The most of the other encouraging ones were not there when I made that post). Maybe abusive was too strong a word to describe that remark.
But I appreciate your response and restoring my faith in IV !!!
Thank you Lasantha for bringing up the issue of abusive remarks. We take this matter very seriously and we do our best to disclose the information of the member who leaves abusive remark. Since you posted about abusive remark, we looked at the remarks posted for you. Here are the remarks left for you in last 1 month. We are not sure which of these remarks are abusive. Kindly excuse us as I personally do not know the meaning of abbreviations MRN or pos. But your help in pointing to the abusive remark will be very helpful.
Lasantha 10:31, 25th Sep 2008 -152 Simple. Though I had PD 3 years earlier than you I am still waiting for my GC and I am pretty sure it will take more than 2 yrs. Just becuase ur ROW u dont deserve an early GC. Grow up MRN.
Lasantha 11:25, 25th Sep 2008 50
Lasantha 14:58, 25th Sep 2008 -46 you are row pos
Lasantha 15:04, 25th Sep 2008 188 ignore the reds
Lasantha 15:06, 25th Sep 2008 37
Lasantha 15:06, 25th Sep 2008 223 I strongly agree with your views, I appreciate your posts, you always post sensible messages. Here is my green to undo the red
Lasantha 16:11, 25th Sep 2008 0 As you do not care take one more.
But I appreciate your response and restoring my faith in IV !!!
Thank you Lasantha for bringing up the issue of abusive remarks. We take this matter very seriously and we do our best to disclose the information of the member who leaves abusive remark. Since you posted about abusive remark, we looked at the remarks posted for you. Here are the remarks left for you in last 1 month. We are not sure which of these remarks are abusive. Kindly excuse us as I personally do not know the meaning of abbreviations MRN or pos. But your help in pointing to the abusive remark will be very helpful.
Lasantha 10:31, 25th Sep 2008 -152 Simple. Though I had PD 3 years earlier than you I am still waiting for my GC and I am pretty sure it will take more than 2 yrs. Just becuase ur ROW u dont deserve an early GC. Grow up MRN.
Lasantha 11:25, 25th Sep 2008 50
Lasantha 14:58, 25th Sep 2008 -46 you are row pos
Lasantha 15:04, 25th Sep 2008 188 ignore the reds
Lasantha 15:06, 25th Sep 2008 37
Lasantha 15:06, 25th Sep 2008 223 I strongly agree with your views, I appreciate your posts, you always post sensible messages. Here is my green to undo the red
Lasantha 16:11, 25th Sep 2008 0 As you do not care take one more.
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vdlrao
04-18 04:34 PM
This is just one example, which is showing that how, long waited, EB3 friends could port into EB2 with out any issues. CONGRATS JimyTomy for your new and colourful journey.
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bindas74
06-11 10:12 PM
Hi Apple,
Dont lose hope and dont lose sleep over it. I know it's easy to say...but just hang in there. Everything will be ok. As someone suggested, all you will be losing is at most 10K. Even that, you can transfer to some where else and should not be paying a cent. Why go now itself? Let's suppose that the judgement is not in your favour, may be , after a couple of years. Then you can quit your job and say you are leaving. I dont think they can stop you at that time. And I dont think they can make you work either, if you decided not to take up a job. Then file banktrupcy and go back to your country. Relax for a couple of years and then come back.
So, all i would suggest is stay calm and let the trial take it's course.
If you do not want to go through all this stress then as someone suggested , try for an out of court settlement. Tell them all you have is about 2K( take off all the money before that). Then they will know what your position is and might settle for that. Better take an attorney so that this is settled for once and all.
It's possible that the target might not even be you. There might be some millionaire in one of the other cars.
That's my 2 cents.
So, just stay cool man..you are not going to lose anything.
A proverb comes to my mind:
"Try pulling a mountain with a hair. If you succeed , you will get the mountain. If you fail, all you have lost is a hair"
Dont lose hope and dont lose sleep over it. I know it's easy to say...but just hang in there. Everything will be ok. As someone suggested, all you will be losing is at most 10K. Even that, you can transfer to some where else and should not be paying a cent. Why go now itself? Let's suppose that the judgement is not in your favour, may be , after a couple of years. Then you can quit your job and say you are leaving. I dont think they can stop you at that time. And I dont think they can make you work either, if you decided not to take up a job. Then file banktrupcy and go back to your country. Relax for a couple of years and then come back.
So, all i would suggest is stay calm and let the trial take it's course.
If you do not want to go through all this stress then as someone suggested , try for an out of court settlement. Tell them all you have is about 2K( take off all the money before that). Then they will know what your position is and might settle for that. Better take an attorney so that this is settled for once and all.
It's possible that the target might not even be you. There might be some millionaire in one of the other cars.
That's my 2 cents.
So, just stay cool man..you are not going to lose anything.
A proverb comes to my mind:
"Try pulling a mountain with a hair. If you succeed , you will get the mountain. If you fail, all you have lost is a hair"
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anilsal
11-15 02:30 PM
The only way to counter this is to get our story out in the media. i joined the forum today and went through a lot of mails on the forum. i saw pappu making appeals to members to help him write to reporters. I saw state chapter threads and only few members have actually signed up for work. see only a handful responded. others simply come on forums and rant. but only few actually do the work. I also observed members critical of Iv or telling IV to do this or that, instead of doing something themselves. My other observation is that members do not contribute money and come to this forum for free advice. Nothing in this country is free but IV is providing this forum and also free advice from lawyers. But members are simply taking advantage of IV and not paying back what they are getting from it. This has been my personal observation. Members we have seen how visa bulletins affect us and demoraliize us. why dont we all do something instead!
You are hitting the right buttons here! You can say it is either laziness or fright/jitters or the comfort of current H1B approval/stamp that is making the large populace to sit tight.
Guess what, once some of the battles are won (we can never win all - they will always be ongoing), we should either knight pappu or induct him to "IV Hall of Fame".
You are hitting the right buttons here! You can say it is either laziness or fright/jitters or the comfort of current H1B approval/stamp that is making the large populace to sit tight.
Guess what, once some of the battles are won (we can never win all - they will always be ongoing), we should either knight pappu or induct him to "IV Hall of Fame".
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08-12 05:52 PM
Just went thru Ron's forum -
what does this mean-
Re: HR 5924 relief for the shortage of nurses
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The Congressional Hispanic Caucus again reiterated its opposition to any immigration legislation that does not address an amnesty for illegals and said that they will block any attempts to pass smaller immigration bills.
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Very bad. They do it all the time. :(
what does this mean-
Re: HR 5924 relief for the shortage of nurses
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The Congressional Hispanic Caucus again reiterated its opposition to any immigration legislation that does not address an amnesty for illegals and said that they will block any attempts to pass smaller immigration bills.
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Very bad. They do it all the time. :(
needhelp!
09-24 07:08 PM
There have been a lot of updates sent out via the verified state chapter mailing lists. If you are not part of any state chapter please check this page http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52 and if there is no state chapter for your state, you can request to become member of a neighboring state chapter.
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=286606
I know the post was entirely wrong and foolish.
But I feel that I am in the dark about IV activities for the past one year.
I am one of the silent IV Supporters and long time (from the beginning) monthly contributing IV Member.
It would be better to have a special thread/monthly bulleting page from IV to tell the members to know about IV activities or progress.
After the last year July fiasco issue I have not seen any posting about IV activities on the web site other than lot of threads and could not able to figure out the work IV is exactly doing.
I strongly believe because of IV core team only we were able to come through successful in July 2007 Bulletin issue. But do not know what else is IV doing for the past 12 months.
The Flowers, Letters and Phone Calls is not working as we expect. I do not know about other activities other than sending letters and phones during every congress session.
I believe IV need to do some thing different. There is no media reports about legal immigration issue (not for IV) for the past one year.
My perspective is that we need to find a way that Media and Public will aware of the issues we face every day.
I am not questioning the IV Core Team. It would be great if the IV members know some details about IV activities every month in a bulletin or thread etc.
Thanks
vselvam
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=286606
I know the post was entirely wrong and foolish.
But I feel that I am in the dark about IV activities for the past one year.
I am one of the silent IV Supporters and long time (from the beginning) monthly contributing IV Member.
It would be better to have a special thread/monthly bulleting page from IV to tell the members to know about IV activities or progress.
After the last year July fiasco issue I have not seen any posting about IV activities on the web site other than lot of threads and could not able to figure out the work IV is exactly doing.
I strongly believe because of IV core team only we were able to come through successful in July 2007 Bulletin issue. But do not know what else is IV doing for the past 12 months.
The Flowers, Letters and Phone Calls is not working as we expect. I do not know about other activities other than sending letters and phones during every congress session.
I believe IV need to do some thing different. There is no media reports about legal immigration issue (not for IV) for the past one year.
My perspective is that we need to find a way that Media and Public will aware of the issues we face every day.
I am not questioning the IV Core Team. It would be great if the IV members know some details about IV activities every month in a bulletin or thread etc.
Thanks
vselvam
GCOP
12-08 01:48 PM
Friends, I already have expressed the views regarding Recapturing/ temporarily increasing Employment Based Visa Numbers for Greencard, on change.gov website . I have been getting E-mails from Transition Team. I have pasted this recent E-mail which is about Meeting with Transition Team. I think, IV Core Team members or/and people living around Chicago area should arrange meeting with Transition Team, and express and suggest our ideas regarding Recapture/Temporary Increase EB greencard Numbers to clear the backlog.
Your seat at the table
From: John D. Podesta, Obama-Biden Transition Project (info@obamabidentransitionproject.org)
Sent: Sat 12/06/08 10:30 AM
Everyday, we meet with organizations that present ideas for the Transition and the incoming Obama-Biden Administration. In past transitions, meetings like this have been held behind closed doors.
Not anymore. Today, every Obama-Biden Transition staff member received a memo outlining the "Seat at the Table" Transparency Policy. I've included a copy of it below.
The policy is pretty simple: the people and groups we're meeting with, the subjects of the meetings, and any documents shared in the meetings will now be made available on Change.gov. Most importantly, the American public can weigh in with comments or their own materials.
Read the memo and watch our "Seat at the Table" video:
This is our latest step toward a more transparent and accessible Transition. We look forward to benefitting from the many more voices that will now be a part of the decision-making process.
Thank you,
John
John D. Podesta
Co-chair
The Obama-Biden Transition Project
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MEMORANDUM
From: John Podesta
To: All Obama-Biden Transition Project Staff
Date: December 4, 2008
Re: "Seat at the Table" Transparency Policy -- EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
Overview:
As an extension of the unprecedented ethics guidelines already in place for the Obama-Biden Transition Project, we take another significant step towards transparency of our efforts for the American people. Every day, we meet with organizations who present ideas for the Transition and the Administration, both orally and in writing. We want to ensure that we give the American people a "seat at the table" and that we receive the benefit of their feedback.
Accordingly, any documents from official meetings with outside organizations will be posted on our website for people to review and comment on. In addition to presenting ideas as individuals at www.change.gov, the American people deserve a "seat at the table" as we receive input from organizations and make decisions. In the interest of protecting the personal privacy of individuals, this policy does not apply to personnel matters and hiring recommendations.
Scope:
The following information will be posted on our website:
1. Documents: All policy documents1 and written policy recommendations from official meetings2 with outside organizations.
2. Meetings: The date and organizations represented at official meetings in the Transition headquarters or agency offices, with any documents presented as noted above.
This scope is a floor, not a ceiling, and all staff are strongly encouraged to include additional materials. Such materials could include documents (recommendations, press releases, etc.) presented in smaller meetings or materials or made public by the outside organization without a connection to an official meeting.
If you have any questions as to whether documents should be included, please email [REDACTED].
Process:
Prior to an official meeting with an outside organization or organizations, Obama-Biden Transition Project staff members will inform attendees that any documents provided will be posted on our "Seat at the Table" website found at www.change.gov. Suggested language for email invitations is: "By presenting or submitting any document at a meeting with the Obama-Biden Transition Project, you agree to allow the document to be made public and posted on www.change.gov." At the completion of each meeting or upon receipt of such documents, Transition staff will provide the documents to [REDACTED] with the date of the meeting, a list of the organizations in attendance, and the topic of the meeting.
Notes:
1) This policy does not apply to non-public or classified information acquired from the Agency Review Process and internal memorandum.
2) An "official meeting" is defined as a meeting with outside organizations or representatives of those organizations to which three or more outside participants attend.
Your seat at the table
From: John D. Podesta, Obama-Biden Transition Project (info@obamabidentransitionproject.org)
Sent: Sat 12/06/08 10:30 AM
Everyday, we meet with organizations that present ideas for the Transition and the incoming Obama-Biden Administration. In past transitions, meetings like this have been held behind closed doors.
Not anymore. Today, every Obama-Biden Transition staff member received a memo outlining the "Seat at the Table" Transparency Policy. I've included a copy of it below.
The policy is pretty simple: the people and groups we're meeting with, the subjects of the meetings, and any documents shared in the meetings will now be made available on Change.gov. Most importantly, the American public can weigh in with comments or their own materials.
Read the memo and watch our "Seat at the Table" video:
This is our latest step toward a more transparent and accessible Transition. We look forward to benefitting from the many more voices that will now be a part of the decision-making process.
Thank you,
John
John D. Podesta
Co-chair
The Obama-Biden Transition Project
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MEMORANDUM
From: John Podesta
To: All Obama-Biden Transition Project Staff
Date: December 4, 2008
Re: "Seat at the Table" Transparency Policy -- EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
Overview:
As an extension of the unprecedented ethics guidelines already in place for the Obama-Biden Transition Project, we take another significant step towards transparency of our efforts for the American people. Every day, we meet with organizations who present ideas for the Transition and the Administration, both orally and in writing. We want to ensure that we give the American people a "seat at the table" and that we receive the benefit of their feedback.
Accordingly, any documents from official meetings with outside organizations will be posted on our website for people to review and comment on. In addition to presenting ideas as individuals at www.change.gov, the American people deserve a "seat at the table" as we receive input from organizations and make decisions. In the interest of protecting the personal privacy of individuals, this policy does not apply to personnel matters and hiring recommendations.
Scope:
The following information will be posted on our website:
1. Documents: All policy documents1 and written policy recommendations from official meetings2 with outside organizations.
2. Meetings: The date and organizations represented at official meetings in the Transition headquarters or agency offices, with any documents presented as noted above.
This scope is a floor, not a ceiling, and all staff are strongly encouraged to include additional materials. Such materials could include documents (recommendations, press releases, etc.) presented in smaller meetings or materials or made public by the outside organization without a connection to an official meeting.
If you have any questions as to whether documents should be included, please email [REDACTED].
Process:
Prior to an official meeting with an outside organization or organizations, Obama-Biden Transition Project staff members will inform attendees that any documents provided will be posted on our "Seat at the Table" website found at www.change.gov. Suggested language for email invitations is: "By presenting or submitting any document at a meeting with the Obama-Biden Transition Project, you agree to allow the document to be made public and posted on www.change.gov." At the completion of each meeting or upon receipt of such documents, Transition staff will provide the documents to [REDACTED] with the date of the meeting, a list of the organizations in attendance, and the topic of the meeting.
Notes:
1) This policy does not apply to non-public or classified information acquired from the Agency Review Process and internal memorandum.
2) An "official meeting" is defined as a meeting with outside organizations or representatives of those organizations to which three or more outside participants attend.
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