bjdku
Sep 13, 09:18 PM
I said I'd bet, not give. As in you pay equal money if this turns out to be right. And it's a figure of speech. :rolleyes:
Well, I for one wish apple would come out with this thing already. I would pay my savings just to end the anguish (figure of speech, hat tip QCassidy352)! Bury the Chocolate! I hate seeing that iPod wanna-be!
Well, I for one wish apple would come out with this thing already. I would pay my savings just to end the anguish (figure of speech, hat tip QCassidy352)! Bury the Chocolate! I hate seeing that iPod wanna-be!
Synapple
Sep 14, 08:46 AM
Wow... this is great!
I knew Apple would have a stand at Photokina but an Apple special event even before it is awesome! :D
Apart from Aperture 2.0 I bet some hardware is a given.
Aperture in itself, albeit a significant application for pro photographers, would not warrant a special event... let alone a special event on a Sunday :eek:
I knew Apple would have a stand at Photokina but an Apple special event even before it is awesome! :D
Apart from Aperture 2.0 I bet some hardware is a given.
Aperture in itself, albeit a significant application for pro photographers, would not warrant a special event... let alone a special event on a Sunday :eek:
HecubusPro
Sep 3, 12:26 AM
Interesting tidbit I thought I'd share:
My gf's dad is in the military and he was asking about Macbooks at AAFES because my gf has been saving up to buy one. The salesman there said that they were out of stock at the moment, but that they could order one and it would ship out either the 12th or 15th of September.
Sounds promising!! :)
-Matt
A news report suggested that the back-to-school rush has been the reason for the macbook specific shortages. Indications are the macbook won't be updated with Core 2 Duo until a later time, but could be as early as the end of September. I would guess we won't see C2D macbooks this month at least though. MBP's on the other had will hopefully, and should be shipping within the next 2 to 3 weeks.
My gf's dad is in the military and he was asking about Macbooks at AAFES because my gf has been saving up to buy one. The salesman there said that they were out of stock at the moment, but that they could order one and it would ship out either the 12th or 15th of September.
Sounds promising!! :)
-Matt
A news report suggested that the back-to-school rush has been the reason for the macbook specific shortages. Indications are the macbook won't be updated with Core 2 Duo until a later time, but could be as early as the end of September. I would guess we won't see C2D macbooks this month at least though. MBP's on the other had will hopefully, and should be shipping within the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Umbongo
Mar 23, 01:01 PM
2012... 18 month update cycle? Far, far too long. No way... If that's the case, for the first time in 27 years, Apple doesn't get my money.
August 2006
January 2008 - 17 months later
March 2009 - 14 months later
July 2010 - 16 months later
While spring is possible the processors are to be launched in Q4. It is more likely to be under 18 months, but there is nothing out of the ordinary. Only the 2010 models seemed to be on Apple's time line rather than Intels.
Of course, part of the reason why people are hesitant to buy them is because they are the last to be updated... even though they are the most expensive product Apple has.
They have actually been the first to be updated for most of the time because Intel launched new technology on these platforms first. First to get 65nm Core 2 processor technology, first to get 45nm Penryn Core 2, first to get Nehalem (Core i5/i7). If Apple had updated on time in 2010 they'd have been first then to get Westmere (Apple released 4 months after the processor launch). Intel have changed their release schedule from enthusiast and Enterprise coming first with the move to Sandy Bridge, mostly because the benefits are more to the mobile market due to power savings.
August 2006
January 2008 - 17 months later
March 2009 - 14 months later
July 2010 - 16 months later
While spring is possible the processors are to be launched in Q4. It is more likely to be under 18 months, but there is nothing out of the ordinary. Only the 2010 models seemed to be on Apple's time line rather than Intels.
Of course, part of the reason why people are hesitant to buy them is because they are the last to be updated... even though they are the most expensive product Apple has.
They have actually been the first to be updated for most of the time because Intel launched new technology on these platforms first. First to get 65nm Core 2 processor technology, first to get 45nm Penryn Core 2, first to get Nehalem (Core i5/i7). If Apple had updated on time in 2010 they'd have been first then to get Westmere (Apple released 4 months after the processor launch). Intel have changed their release schedule from enthusiast and Enterprise coming first with the move to Sandy Bridge, mostly because the benefits are more to the mobile market due to power savings.
Multimedia
Sep 9, 02:16 PM
Heh, that's pretty funny. I have quite a few applications that'll hit one core at 100%. (Q emulator is the best example) Luckily, even though it's not multi-threaded a have another core free to do my work while Q eats up 100% of one.
I run Windows 98 in Q for laughs. I liked Windows 98...Exactly. A perfect example where one application topping out on only one core leaves the entire other one for other stuff. Probably a good thing to have that limit.
In fact, in future, I could see where application developers let the user in preferences tell the application how many cores to be allowed to use. Give the user a choice of how many cores he/she wants a particular process to use. That would be a way cool improvement in all application preferences. Would prevent any one applicaiton from hosing the computer due to core hogging.
I run Windows 98 in Q for laughs. I liked Windows 98...Exactly. A perfect example where one application topping out on only one core leaves the entire other one for other stuff. Probably a good thing to have that limit.
In fact, in future, I could see where application developers let the user in preferences tell the application how many cores to be allowed to use. Give the user a choice of how many cores he/she wants a particular process to use. That would be a way cool improvement in all application preferences. Would prevent any one applicaiton from hosing the computer due to core hogging.
roadbloc
Mar 29, 02:59 PM
Ok but didn't someone say that CMD + Drag does the same for files?
Yes. Which was also mentioned that cmd+drag is very inconvenient and a hassle to deal with the majority of the time (or at least in my opinion.)
Why Apple just doesn't just enable cmd-x in Finder is beyond me. It would make my life just a little easier at times.
Yes. Which was also mentioned that cmd+drag is very inconvenient and a hassle to deal with the majority of the time (or at least in my opinion.)
Why Apple just doesn't just enable cmd-x in Finder is beyond me. It would make my life just a little easier at times.
Donz0r
Sep 13, 09:46 PM
do you dial numbers every time you use your phone? I have a samsung t809, and i don't slide it down most of the time, unless i want to answer it that way. It's kinda fun, but it's not required to answer the phone.
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/11/0,,i=118734&,00.jpg
oh yeah, this plays aac's and any song as a ringtone. so that makes ringtone purchases 0.00 if you own the song already... what a concept!
My friend has that phone, it's amazing.
THESE SLIDER PHONES ARE A HUGE HIT RIGHT NOW!
Some of you may not like the slider style, but most consumers love it. And love the idea of a True music playing cell phone that can replace your iPod (nano at least)
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/11/0,,i=118734&,00.jpg
oh yeah, this plays aac's and any song as a ringtone. so that makes ringtone purchases 0.00 if you own the song already... what a concept!
My friend has that phone, it's amazing.
THESE SLIDER PHONES ARE A HUGE HIT RIGHT NOW!
Some of you may not like the slider style, but most consumers love it. And love the idea of a True music playing cell phone that can replace your iPod (nano at least)
sinisterdesign
Aug 23, 10:52 PM
Creative found a way to make money. good for them.
sushi
Aug 23, 10:28 PM
Apple makes money off of iTunes - they won't tell us how much, but it is a money maker (all be it insignificant compared to the iPod)
I think that you mean Apple makes money off of iTMS (iTunes Music Store). And yes, it would be interesting to know how much they really make.
I think that you mean Apple makes money off of iTMS (iTunes Music Store). And yes, it would be interesting to know how much they really make.
Repo
Apr 30, 03:48 PM
Curious that everyone is clamoring for a thunderbolt-enabled machine, but there isn't a single thunderbolt drive available on the market.
Apple did the same thing with USB.
Apple did the same thing with USB.
juicedropsdeuce
Mar 22, 03:11 PM
24 inch useless? Thanks god, for telling us what's what.
Honestly, if it made any sense whatsoever then Apple wouldn't have killed it. Do the math. You're living in the past, kid.
Honestly, if it made any sense whatsoever then Apple wouldn't have killed it. Do the math. You're living in the past, kid.
ciTiger
Apr 11, 07:52 AM
Apple will fix it soon...
toddybody
Apr 25, 01:15 PM
Wow, you people...
What do you mean, "you people"
http://oneguyrambling.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/600full-tropic-thunder-photo.jpg
What do you mean, "you people"
http://oneguyrambling.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/600full-tropic-thunder-photo.jpg
thejadedmonkey
Sep 13, 11:40 PM
I hope the image isn't the iPhone. I didn't like the nano, and the 2nd gen ones aren't any better. They're all flat.. I don't like that. They need the bulge of the middle button that the mini and 1-4th gen iPods had. Yeah, there've been better renderings of "iPhones".
The other thing I'm worried about is that everyone is saying it's an iPod with phone functionality. That's not Apple at all. Apple focuses on one thing only, and then adds the rest. For an iPhone to happen, Apple would make a phone first, and then add music playback 2nd. not the other way around. That leaves me to believe that a screen with a wheel below it wouldn't be the best design.
Having said all this, I am in need of a new iPod, and a new phone.
The other thing I'm worried about is that everyone is saying it's an iPod with phone functionality. That's not Apple at all. Apple focuses on one thing only, and then adds the rest. For an iPhone to happen, Apple would make a phone first, and then add music playback 2nd. not the other way around. That leaves me to believe that a screen with a wheel below it wouldn't be the best design.
Having said all this, I am in need of a new iPod, and a new phone.
jddar
Mar 22, 01:57 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8F190 Safari/6533.18.5)
Wish I could afford to buy a 27-inch one. I got a refund after returning several of the 2009 model for various display issues. I still lust after that computer--aside from those issues, it was by far the best computer I ever owned. I just ordered a new iPad 2. So, I'll likely have to wait for the next incarnation of the iMac. Definitely, soon, I will get another iMac. The iMac and iPad are the perfect combination for my needs.
Wish I could afford to buy a 27-inch one. I got a refund after returning several of the 2009 model for various display issues. I still lust after that computer--aside from those issues, it was by far the best computer I ever owned. I just ordered a new iPad 2. So, I'll likely have to wait for the next incarnation of the iMac. Definitely, soon, I will get another iMac. The iMac and iPad are the perfect combination for my needs.
cube
Mar 30, 01:33 PM
But MS never consistently used the term App to describe any part of their business. Sure it pops up occasionally here and there, almost at random, but that's about it. Historically they've always used 'Programs'. So to use your example, why couldn't they say: "We have this thing called Marketplace. What is it? Well, it's a place where you can buy programs.....". Why are they not happy with that? It will line up so much better with their software genealogy.
I suspect the truth of the matter is they now want to start using 'App' for everything (instead of Programs), because Apple has popularized the term. Its on everybody's tongue now. And MS wants in on it. They want their stuff to be associated with the buzz that Apple created. That's borderline parasitic to me.
Then why doesn't Apple just trademark the word "App"?
I suspect the truth of the matter is they now want to start using 'App' for everything (instead of Programs), because Apple has popularized the term. Its on everybody's tongue now. And MS wants in on it. They want their stuff to be associated with the buzz that Apple created. That's borderline parasitic to me.
Then why doesn't Apple just trademark the word "App"?
smack416
Oct 27, 06:55 PM
I was thinking of buying an iPod Shuffle for my niece for Xmas but she'll be getting something else instead.
I'm sure your niece will be proud of you too, once she can understand why you did what you did.
What, exactly, is there to be proud of? Taking an uninformed or misguided stand is not something to trumpet.
As an environmentalist I am extremely pissed at Greenpeace and all the other fear mongerers out there that spread lies and hyperbole in order to "force" people to believe in their righteous campaigns.
As someone working in the marketing industry it pains me to see such useless posturing which, in the end, may win over a few fanatics but, most importantly, alienates the general public.
Actually making an impact on the environment would not be terribly difficult if groups like Greenpeace weren't putting off the average person from having a proper discussion on the issues that could actually make a difference. I'm talking about energy conservation over, say, inconsequential amounts of BFRs.
I'm sure your niece will be proud of you too, once she can understand why you did what you did.
What, exactly, is there to be proud of? Taking an uninformed or misguided stand is not something to trumpet.
As an environmentalist I am extremely pissed at Greenpeace and all the other fear mongerers out there that spread lies and hyperbole in order to "force" people to believe in their righteous campaigns.
As someone working in the marketing industry it pains me to see such useless posturing which, in the end, may win over a few fanatics but, most importantly, alienates the general public.
Actually making an impact on the environment would not be terribly difficult if groups like Greenpeace weren't putting off the average person from having a proper discussion on the issues that could actually make a difference. I'm talking about energy conservation over, say, inconsequential amounts of BFRs.
Manic Mouse
Sep 10, 06:46 AM
Powerbook G5 tomorrow!!! LOL ok, ok.. before someone shoots me .....
I would really like a mid range mac, and kentsfield would be ideal! Everyone is worried about such a machine taking away sales from either the Mac Pro or the imac, but I still say apple should just be smart enough and feature it so that people either have to to imac, mac extreme or mac pro. 2 pci express slots, single optical drive, smaller amount of total memory, instead of having people have to go for the mac pro why cant apple make the mac pro the real high end workstation and have something smaller be a the mainstream workstation?
The margins on a mid-mac should be better than the iMac since it's using standard (and therefore cheap) desktop components. So any mid-mac sales in preference to the iMac would probably make Apple more money anyway.
I would really like a mid range mac, and kentsfield would be ideal! Everyone is worried about such a machine taking away sales from either the Mac Pro or the imac, but I still say apple should just be smart enough and feature it so that people either have to to imac, mac extreme or mac pro. 2 pci express slots, single optical drive, smaller amount of total memory, instead of having people have to go for the mac pro why cant apple make the mac pro the real high end workstation and have something smaller be a the mainstream workstation?
The margins on a mid-mac should be better than the iMac since it's using standard (and therefore cheap) desktop components. So any mid-mac sales in preference to the iMac would probably make Apple more money anyway.
econgeek
Apr 14, 12:58 PM
The MBPs could have DisplayPort 1.2 if it were not for the damned connector merge.
The mini-display port connector is part of the DisplayPort 1.2 standard and is seemingly seeing wide adoption from PC laptop and display makers.
The DisplayPort 1.2 specification requires support for DisplayPort 1.1a on mini-display ports, but I don't see anything that precludes it supporting 1.2 signalling.
Can you point to an article that details how Thunderbolt is a problem for this? The Thunderbolt controller, when connected to a DisplayPort 1.2 (only) display, could fall back to DisplayPort mode like it does now, could it not?
Intel should have stood their ground on Thunderbolt... Would have pushed component manufacturers to make more Thunderbolt devices, now we're going to have a mish mash, and those of us with Macs are getting the shaft because we won't get USB 3.0 from Apple...
I wish they had announced that IvyBridge was USB 2.0 only, but this delays USB 3.0 adoption by a year.
There's been strong support for Thunderbolt, so that year might be enough to kill USB 3.0, which hasn't exactly taken off.
The mini-display port connector is part of the DisplayPort 1.2 standard and is seemingly seeing wide adoption from PC laptop and display makers.
The DisplayPort 1.2 specification requires support for DisplayPort 1.1a on mini-display ports, but I don't see anything that precludes it supporting 1.2 signalling.
Can you point to an article that details how Thunderbolt is a problem for this? The Thunderbolt controller, when connected to a DisplayPort 1.2 (only) display, could fall back to DisplayPort mode like it does now, could it not?
Intel should have stood their ground on Thunderbolt... Would have pushed component manufacturers to make more Thunderbolt devices, now we're going to have a mish mash, and those of us with Macs are getting the shaft because we won't get USB 3.0 from Apple...
I wish they had announced that IvyBridge was USB 2.0 only, but this delays USB 3.0 adoption by a year.
There's been strong support for Thunderbolt, so that year might be enough to kill USB 3.0, which hasn't exactly taken off.
wizard
Sep 9, 10:48 AM
I think far to many persons here are dismissing Merom and are not thinking about this rationally. They are getting a 20% boost at the SAME clock speed as the old chips. That is similar to 400 MHz additional performance. Granted one can not scale the MHz without other issues coming into play but still it gives you an idea about how well the chips are doing. On top of that the 64 bit option isn't likely to even be in the picture at the moment nor the other chip improvements.
What I'm getting at is that Merom is demonstrating to be a significant step forward. The real surprise is that Intel actually delivered a nice chip set.
As to the laptop chip in the iMac come on everyone here knows about the thermal issues in that machine. It is no surprise at all. What it does demonstrate clearly is that multiprocessing can deliver very usable performance at very low powers. A number of people where dismissing multiprocessing as the wave of the future a couple of years ago (I remember because I was promoting it) this should cool off those concerns for the majority of the users out there. I'm with you on power usage more manufactures need to look at this issue seriously.
The thing with Merom is that I'm seeing big upside potential performance wise. I'm surprised that more people are not up on this. Intel can accomplish this by tweaking the current process or going to the next generation feature size. Merom is nice but it still needs more effort at power reduction to scale speed.
Thanks
Dave
I think we all knew that Merom would only bring modest performance gains. I'm surprised they're as high as they are. I'm still not sure why they're using the laptop line of processors in their mid range desktop but it's certainly a testament to the power of Intel's new chips. If it keeps the iMac's cool and efficient then it's all good.
What I'm getting at is that Merom is demonstrating to be a significant step forward. The real surprise is that Intel actually delivered a nice chip set.
As to the laptop chip in the iMac come on everyone here knows about the thermal issues in that machine. It is no surprise at all. What it does demonstrate clearly is that multiprocessing can deliver very usable performance at very low powers. A number of people where dismissing multiprocessing as the wave of the future a couple of years ago (I remember because I was promoting it) this should cool off those concerns for the majority of the users out there. I'm with you on power usage more manufactures need to look at this issue seriously.
The thing with Merom is that I'm seeing big upside potential performance wise. I'm surprised that more people are not up on this. Intel can accomplish this by tweaking the current process or going to the next generation feature size. Merom is nice but it still needs more effort at power reduction to scale speed.
Thanks
Dave
I think we all knew that Merom would only bring modest performance gains. I'm surprised they're as high as they are. I'm still not sure why they're using the laptop line of processors in their mid range desktop but it's certainly a testament to the power of Intel's new chips. If it keeps the iMac's cool and efficient then it's all good.
RollTide
Apr 30, 09:28 PM
I really hope to see 512 mb vram on the base 21.5, but that will probably never happen.
Maybe in 5 years :rolleyes:
Maybe in 5 years :rolleyes:
dextertangocci
Sep 16, 02:57 AM
I' SO sick of iPhone rumours:rolleyes:
The iPhone will NOT be released..... EVER!
The iPhone will NOT be released..... EVER!
Dr Kevorkian94
Mar 22, 02:40 PM
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AidenShaw
Mar 29, 03:15 PM
Love this little gem from that press release:
Perhaps you should spend some time looking at the facts - there are non-Android Linux-based mobile systems out there.
If you knew that, the IDC comment is spot on.
Perhaps you should spend some time looking at the facts - there are non-Android Linux-based mobile systems out there.
If you knew that, the IDC comment is spot on.
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